56 Min Released Jul 31, 2018

Under The Sea

In the 1960's, the United States spent millions of dollars exploring two different realms: outer space, and the deep oceans. But today, only one of those programs is still around. Why do space colonies seem more likely than underwater cities? And what does it take to build a settlement on the sea floor?

Ben Hellwarth, journalist and author of SEALAB: America's Forgotten Quest to Live and Work on the Ocean Floor
Jim Fourqurean, professor of Marine Science at Florida International University and the director of the Center for Coastal Oceans Research
Roger Garcia, operations director at Aquarius Reef Base
Katherine Sammler, assistant professor at California State University Maritime in the department of Global Studies & Maritime Affairs

Further Reading/Watching:
The Silent World
JFK's Moon Shot speech
JFK 1961 remarks on the ocean
JFK Address at the Anniversary Convocation of the National Academy of Sciences, 22 October 1963
SEALAB: America's Forgotten Quest to Live and Work on the Ocean Floor
To Tell The Truth featuring Bob Barth
I have lived underwater
Medina Aquarius Program
From the Ocean’s Abyss to the Vacuum of Space: Privatization in the Vertical Commons
National Governance Of Ocean Volumes
Subsuming the Submerged: Producing Seabeds as Political Territories.
Knowing the Abyss: Seeking Geographies of Ocean Space.
The Deep Pacific: Island Governance and Seabed Mineral Development.
United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea

Produced by me, Rose Eveleth.
The intro music: Asura
Outtro music: Hussalonia.
Voices of the future this episode: Stephen Granade and Andrea Klunder.
Episode art: Matt Lubchansky.
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